Bigger Honda’s motobike and Acura Values seem to keep going up these days, assuming you have the right old Honda or Acura. The NSX and Type R Integration kicked off this desirable training program and since then it has been relegated to others such as Honda S2000CRX Si, and many varieties Civic Si (most notably the sixth generation EM1). We are used to seeing big dollar results on many online methods Auction at this point, but the question that often arises is: Are these old Hondas really worth what people are paying for them?
It’s an unanswerable question for a lot of reasons – everyone derives happiness from cars in their own way – but what we can do is let you know what it feels like to get behind the wheel. the driver of some of them. Recently, Honda invited us for a day of cruising on three vehicles from its Heritage Collection: a 1985, 1986 Honda CRX Si Honda Civic Si and a year 1975 Honda Civic Hatchback CVCC. OK, turn your hand.
1985 Honda CRX Si
- 1985 Honda CRX Si
- Image credits: Zac Palmer
The CRX Si is easily the most desirable of the world’s favorite CRX models. Not only was it fun, frugal and engaging, but it was Honda who started the long history of Si models in America. The Civic Si came out a year later, and Prelude The Si comes along with it, but it’s the CRX Si that could have a shocking sale price today.
Stepping into the cockpit of this 1985 example with just 11,074 miles on the clock is a great way to instantly make any bad day better. The soft, high-latch patterned chairs hug your body, but don’t pose any significant obstacles when getting in and out. The three-spoke steering wheel has thin rims and the five-speed manual shifter stands out from the floor. Visibility to the rear is only partially obstructed by the Si’s rear spoiler, but visibility everywhere else is excellent. There are some surprising audio controls that offer manual audio tuning, and the “Honda High Power System” and “Dolby System” branding on the head unit are like relic of another era. like the rest of the car – and you can expect sound quality to match.
Classic Honda dashboard with simple and easy-to-read gauges – the red 6,500rpm red line stands out prominently on the tachometer, showing that this car is very clearly unequipped. one of the high rpm VTEC engines will come a few years later to other Hondas. Instead, the CRX Si gets a 1.5-liter four-cylinder engine that makes a modest 91 horsepower and 93 pound-feet of torque. In a car as light as the CRX Si (just under 2,000 pounds), the Si’s 15 horsepower and 9 pound-feet of extra power over the regular CRX makes a big difference. One could say that it’s Sport injected – we’ll see the way to the door.
Even so, any car under 100 horsepower should feel like a dog, right? No, not this CRX Si. It starts and moves with more pep than you might expect and the engine produces steady power across the rev range. It’s not a top-of-the-line monster like some of the Si models will follow after the CRX. Instead, it’s just a pleasant, pure, and powerful four-cylinder engine. It sounds powerful, even meaty, for such a small engine. And no, there’s nothing special about the note when it hits the red line, but it’s a horrible sound we look forward to hearing every day.
How does it handle? It’s hard to say, as our driving route was primarily limited to rolling back to Woodward Avenue and neighboring streets throughout. But gosh this direction is interesting. It’s not electrically assisted, and every stretch of the road is transmitted back to the lovely steering wheel. New cars with electric steering wish they could steal a bit of this CRX’s natural ability to talk to the driver non-stop.
Steering and limited weight are two of the best things about this car. What’s not up to modern standards, however, are the tires – Honda has fitted this CRX with regenerative tires from time to time, and they love to fold in on themselves when you’re cornering. The limits are low, but at least the large sidewalls and small wheels make for a good ride on poor Michigan roads.
In addition to the powertrain, the CRX draws many wonders from that iconic design. The first Si from 1985 came in two tones from body to bumper, with this example being a black bodywork with gray painted bumpers. Its distinctive red accents continue to be a staple of the Si to this day, and it’s just as powerful as the twin tailpipes and large “CRX” lettering on the rear taillights. It’s safe to say we enjoyed the old CRX Si a lot, as this was our second time driving it and both times resulted in us liking the great two-door forklift.
1986 Honda Civic Si Hatchback
- 1986 Honda Civic Si
- Image credits: Zac Palmer
Our time on the 1986 Civic Si was much longer than on these other older Hondas, and we think it would be hard to find a better car that acts as a car restart button. In a world full of bigger, heavier, more powerful vehicles, the light hatchback with the same 91-horsepower engine as the CRX Si is a breath of fresh air.
Everything is handcrafted and delightfully tactile. You have a hand-cranked window, a manual sunroof, no power steering, a manual transmission… the list goes on. Visibility in the CRX could have been very good, but in this bubble of glass the visibility is absolutely outstanding. The car is so small and has so much glass, that checking your blind spot is almost a good thing to do, without wasting energy looking around. Blind spot warning is great and all, but if every car is old like this civicyou really won’t need it.
Much of the engine’s sound, feel and revs can be copied and pasted from our notes on the CRX Si. If anything, the sense of speed is a bit blurred in the Civic Hatchback due to the ride height and higher seating position. Seriously, though, check out the monster truck-like wheel clearance at the Civic’s stroke height – you won’t see that on a modern hatch.
The five-speed gearbox swaps through gears obediently, and while the gearshift isn’t quite Honda’s pinnacle yet, there’s great positive feedback and affirmation through each gear. In the mid-1980s, the change was spectacular. Both this CRX and Civic Hatchback have responsive gas pedals and heavy clutch pedals that provide plenty of bite-point feel. Power is almost exorbitant, so you’ll have to change a lot to keep the revs up and this tiny hatchback swoops forward with as much urgency as it can. The fun factor and the level of engagement is very high, even at a much slower pace than any modern performance car.
Where your speed seems to escalate is in the corners where that low curb weight turns this little car into a fun fur to ride around. Similar to the CRX’s steering, this Civic’s powerless steering rack is fun to use, maintaining its weight and feeling natural throughout the corner. A slight forward or backward movement helps the wheel spin at low speeds, but even at rest, this lightweight vehicle doesn’t require much arm strength to turn the wheel – it’s all part of the charm.
“Graceful” might be the best way to describe this first Civic Hatchback Si. The thumbs support and stare everywhere we drive. This glassy, boxy hatchback brings a lot of happiness to the world and we’re happy to announce that it’s just as charming to drive as it looks.
1975 Honda Civic Hatchback CVCC
- 1975 Honda Civic Hatchback CVCC
- Image credits: Zac Palmer
You may have heard the term “CVCC” used when discussing Motorbike. And yes, it was such an important part of the original Civic Hatchback that Honda included it in the car’s actual name. In a nutshell, Honda CVCC (Vortex Controlled Combustion Combustion) technology used a unique pre-chamber area to initiate the combustion of a very rich air-fuel mixture. A valve between the area before this chamber and the final combustion chamber opens, allowing the explosion to drip down, resulting in a very thin air-fuel mixture in this final chamber. Result emissions from this engine design was low enough to meet the stringent requirements at a time when every other car manufacturer needed to use catalytic conversion to do the same. This Honda needed no addition, which was a huge technological achievement at the time. It was therefore also a huge advantage for Honda, setting the company on a path of success that continues to this day.
Is driving a Civic Hatchback CVCC odd or weird in any way as a result of this unconventional burnout? Nothing! The 1.5-liter four-cylinder makes just 53 horsepower and 68 pound-feet of torque, but like other old Hondas we’ve driven, this one accelerates in its own way. its without any difficulty. OK, so the 0-60 mph time between 15 seconds is undeniably slow, but even on Michigan’s Woodward Avenue with the traffic scurrying around us, we kept up.
Running the revs on this tiny hatchback through first, second and third gears is an amazingly enjoyable thing to do. Gearboxes in older cars can be very heavy and difficult to shift, but not this one. The five-speed – yes, the full five-speed – has a great effect on timing, making it an opportune time to paddle through the gears. The Porsche 911 of the 1970s wished its transmission felt just as good. So were the people of the 1980s, think about it.
Honda is so focused on the ride and handling qualities of this tiny hatchback that they have fitted it with an independent rear suspension design despite the extra cost and effort to do so. For such a small car, it handled Michigan’s scarred roads without breaking a sweat. Cracks and manhole covers are painless, as this little Honda filters them out nicely. We never got a great shot when testing the handling of this tiny hatchback, but it was fun and enjoyable to take a dip around some of the corners we did hit. That thin-rimmed wooden steering wheel is both artistic and fitting for such a petite car. It just adds to the character of a car that is light and desirable to drive.
Gadgets weren’t forgotten in 1975 either. After all, it’s a Civic! No, the backseat wasn’t as welcoming and welcoming as the seats in today’s huge Civic Hatchback, but it did exist and an adult could theoretically fit in there. And of course, don’t forget that this one is a Hatchback. Instead of the full, exposed liftgate we’ve come to expect today, the first-generation Civic’s rear door consisted only of glass at the rear. It’s weird by today’s standards, but not a weakening feature. We’d also have the shape and style of a hatchback instead of a sedan any day, even if the utilitarian hatchback ethos wasn’t fully realized in Honda’s 1975 endeavor.
In fact, there’s a lot about this first-ever Civic Hatchback that helps serve as a clear starting point for an evolutionary line ending with today’s Civic. Chief among them is just its downright cheerful personality. This original Hatchback was a small car for commuting around town, and the new Civic Hatchback has done well to retain that driving fun nature. We dare you to drive a 1975 Civic Hatchback without grinning – it’s just a fun guy.